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Welcome to the Never Been Promoted podcast, where we're all about helping you cut the tie to all that holds you back. The excuses, the fears, the people, that sense of entitlement. Cut the ties so you can unleash your inner entrepreneur. Your host, Thomas Helfrich, is on a mission to make more entrepreneurs in the world and make them better at entrepreneurship.
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Welcome to Never Been Promoted High. I'm your host, Thomas Helfrich. We are live today with Geneva Hill. We're gonna be talking about spiritual healing and its impact on your business. Now the cool thing is I'm gonna convince her, I think, to do it, like, a tarot card reading. I'm not even sure she does it, but if she has cards, I'm gonna make I'm gonna ask her to do it because I've never never been through one, and I when I think spiritual healing, I'm on I'm on the skeptic side. I wanna hear about this today because I because I think she's gonna have to convince me through a card reading. Okay. I'm just making shit up at this point. Alright. Listen. Thank you so much for coming on the the show and here and listening, everybody. Our mission is really clear. If this is the first time you've been here, it's to help entrepreneurs get better at entrepreneurship. And our idea is to help you cut ties to all the kind of crap holding you back in your life, and that could be some fears, some excuses. It could be just people in your life, including maybe a former self that you need to get rid of or the current self. Usually, it's you, to be fair. If you if you do have a moment, if you can, you know, like the only ask I have is if you like the content is to go to youtube.com@neverbeenpromoted and subscribe to the YouTube area. And if you're on the the listening side of this, take a moment. Hopefully, it's a 5 star. If it's not a 5 star, get me on LinkedIn and tell me why it's not. But give us a rating. Leave us a nice comment. It helps the, helps the mission move forward when you do those things. Enough shameless plugs on my end now. Let's go ahead and add Geneva to the stage. Hello, Geneva. How are you?

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Hello, Thomas. Doing well. How are you doing today?

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I'm I'm doing well. I'm I'm excited to have this conversation because, I've been on a bit of a spiritual path in the last 3 years, so I feel completely comfortable making fun of things, because I could have done the first, you know, 45 years stand up routines on on the subject. But as you get older and you realize things in life, you're like, I may have been wrong there. So, anyway, it's very nice. Where were you where are you joining from today?

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I'm in Boise, Idaho.

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Boise, Idaho. I've been to Boise. Not very many people could say that with a straight face. I have, and it was for racquetball.

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People can say that lately, I find. You You guys are like one of those growing cities in the US. It's insane. We are exploding over here.

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Enjoy that tax hike. That's gonna be fun.

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It yes. Between the taxes, the grocery prices, and the infrastructure, it's been interesting to observe over the last, like, 5, 10 years how everything's changing around here.

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Is Boise kept its, boyziness?

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You know, I would say yes. There is definitely a lot more, struggle, although I think that's kinda ubiquitous across the United States right now. And what I will say is, like, we still have the green belt. I went on a walk this morning next to a river with trees and birds, and I pet a stray cat. So there's still definitely Boise quality to Boise for sure.

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What are you more afraid of on a walk, a grizzly bear or a moose?

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I mean, we don't really have either in Boise. It's a city. A a a cat of some kind, a wild cat that That would do it. Wild cat's tracking you. Game over. Yeah. That would be a problem.

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Yeah. I wonder if, you know, you you it's pink hair. You guys are just listening. She has, you know, really bright pink hair. Well done. But I'm wondering, like, does that become like a fishing lure to a cat? Like, if you walk around and you dangle it a little bit, would they be like, I'm gonna play with that? It well, no. Well, it's the energy more than anything, friend. Do you see what I did there? I I transitioned into something. Like, no. It's a spiritual energy within me. Are you part of a cat?

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I get along really well with cats. I have 8. So if I was gonna ask you cats or dogs, is cats the answer on that one? No. I have dogs also. In fact, I have one that's part wolf, and he's the best.

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Yeah. How do you know it's part wolf?

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The breeders, were friends of ours. So we knew the it was a Malamute wolf mix and an Akita mix. So Akita.

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Akita 200 pound. Wolf mix. And there's Is that why you have so many cats? You can feed it cats? Or how how does what's the No. I'm not feeding my dog cats. You guys do it different, Boise. There's marketing around this.

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No. No. I have the cats because my oldest son's name is Coyote, and he is a true, feral, wild animal who just collects other animals out of the love in his heart for animals, so I just keep providing him with more and more. We also have some random assortment of fish that keep giving birth to other fish.

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The, I I have one of those. My my my wife is from Slovakia originally, and we'll go see family there. And they don't have any early animals there. But every time we go there, our kids find every kitten possible in the in their little town of 1200, and we'll have anywhere between 2 to 8 kittens living with them outside, what, during our tenure there. Now they're never there when we get back, and usually we lose 1 or 2. And I say lose meaning, like, something ate it probably. Like, but during our, you know, 4 or 5 weeks, we might stay there, but it's amazing how they find animals. It's true that there's a for it. Like, I don't know how they do it because I couldn't find an animal like that. Coyote's really good with snakes. So that's another couple of animals that we keep.

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We have one that's a river snake that we've had for about a year, and we have a ball python that we've had I wanna say I got it for him for his 10th birthday, and he's almost 13. So

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My son requested one of those, and I'm like, no.

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A ball python's just like a puppy. It's the sweetest thing. It's not so I had I had a I had a red tailed boa in my day,

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and it bit me when she got about 6 feet bit tall or longer. She was an aggressive snake, and let me explain why I know that. And you talk about spiritual we're getting into the spiritual here, but this is a kind of little warm up period, everyone. But here here's the thing. This snake's energy was evil. So when you put a a mouse into a cage, usually, they they do their little thing and then they eat it. Right? Then they they wrap it up, and it's gone. You'd put a mouse in there, and she would just bite it. Very territorial. Like, it wouldn't even eat it. It would just bite it endlessly. It was like, oh, what a mean and it's a boa. It's not like it's like, I think it was identifying as a rattler or something. So one day, I opened the cage to feed her or to clean it, and she just lunged, bit my arm, and that snake went back to the, pet store. And the pet owner was like, what am I supposed to do with it? I was like, I don't care, but I'm leaving it here. Here. I'm sure for that. Cage. Said, can I set this down here a second? And it's left. She's like, what are you doing? I'm like, yours. Who am I doing with it? I'm like, whatever you want. I'm not taking it home. And I just drove resell it. I don't care. It's beautiful. Take it. She's so kind. Bleeding. Anyway, true story, actually. It's true. It's true. True story. 100%. You were bleeding actively in the pet store? I was I had I had her bandage on my arm, and and it's it had blood through it. I mean, she got me good. I mean, she she got pure forearm. A 6 foot snake is not a small snake. I mean, it's it's a it's a

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We had an 8 foot bow 8 foot boa constrictor for a short amount of time.

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So frightening if you you know? I loved that snake. It had a mustache snake. Could eat your dog, not your dog, your cat.

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Well, prop yeah. Probably not the dog. The dog's dog's, like, a £110.

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It's an enormous dog. You you need you need a bit a little bit bigger snake than that. Yeah. Yeah. That dog would tear that snake up, actually. It'd be fun. You wanna that's fun. Thank you. That that's one of the cooler intros I've ever had, which is talking about random okay. Do you wanna talk about what you do? Start with what you do with We Are the Galaxy, and and then go back to kind of tell me and set it up. How'd how'd you get there, and and how do you belong to it?

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Yeah. So We Are the Galaxy is a business that focuses on spiritual healing, energetics, and financial wellness as law as well as building soul aligned businesses. So, really, for entrepreneurs that are in spirituality to talk and connect with somebody who also is their place there, lives there, and gets it, as well as adding that entrepreneurship element to the business and to We Are the Galaxy, as well as to your business. So I got started with we are the galaxy. Actually, it it's kind of a funny story. So I always knew that I had a business inside of me. I've been working on birthing what that vision is for the better part of 13 years now across 4 different businesses. And in 2012, the day before I gave birth to my daughter, I had one of those spiritual awakenings that you really only see in movies. Right? It was a backyard. The sky opened up, and I saw through the veil as a at that moment, I was an object atheist. I was not prepared for spirituality to be true or real, and then very instantly my life shifted into you are a spiritual healer. You are here for a purpose. Your husband is not the right man for you, which was great because I gave birth the next day, so it was super. But we in that revelation, moving through that experience and with my daughter, right, my son and my daughter, my older 2, we ended up leaving that marriage about three and a half years later, and I worked on marketing and entrepreneurship exclusively for the next, I would say, 5 years. So I bought a few courses. I learned to run advertising. I worked as the head of marketing for 4, 5 different companies before taking, the position as a manager of a full marketing digital full scale agency. And on the back end, I was like, spirituality is it's so big. I need to be playing in spirituality and spiritual living and how to do that. So I was also getting, and I think this was my 2020. Most people went into, like, sourdough or, desserts, and I went into self development. So I bought, I got my Reiki master. I bought courses on quantum leap formula, soul activations. I learned human design. I learned tarot, taught myself all number of different techniques so that I could bring them into a business, and that's when I gave birth to we are the galaxy. And we started as just spiritual healing, just, doing services 1 on 1. We're doing Reiki. We're doing activations. We're doing incredible things for my clients, and it wasn't it wasn't combining both love. So at this point, I've quit my marketing job, and I'm just doing spirituality and spiritual healing, and it still feels like there's something missing. So where we met, Thomas, was at the blocks, and it was day 3 that I had my very, very big moment and figured out a way to not necessarily pivot in my business, but expand into full understanding of I do spirituality, and I do marketing business. I do financial energetics. I help with this big picture and realizing that I get to and I can be fullness of self even if that's not what you typically see.

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You know, I like that you had that awakening to that you could because it's all connected. And I think what happens sometimes people realize that, how do I say it? So if you think that what you do every day for work is isn't connected to how your everything else goes, specifically in entrepreneurship, you're fooling yourself. Like, you know, like because because if they're not one and the same, then they're disconnected, and you're almost like you're living 2 separate lives. And that's a that's not a good thing to be. 2 different people because because they they they rub on each other.

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You know you know what I mean? Like, so if you like, I think you said you kind of realized that when you had, you're, you know, you're about to have a child with and you're like, I don't think he's the right person to be with, though thanks for the kids. See you later kind of thing. Right? Like like, those that was the purpose of that relationship possibly. Right? And it's like but the the idea is that you have these kind of feelings, these awakenings, and sometimes they're saw as small and subtle, and I think a lot of times people kinda just dismiss it because it whatever reason. But, maybe just back up a second and define what spirituality means to you or to to a broader audience just so people are you know, they don't think it's like, you know, you're getting into a cult or something like that. How would you how would you define the spirituality so we can at least have the same, you know, level of understanding?

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So spirituality, I think I distill that down into understanding your oneness with the universe. So I am in many ways one with God, one with self, one with emotional body as well as physical and spiritual body. And then for me, my spirituality journey has taken me to the place where I also have connection with what is on the other side of what many call the veil. I feel like that's a very good term terminology wise. It's just on the other side of physicality. Right? Just on the other side of what we see on the day to day. And so I've found connection with, for instance, my team of guides, And everyone has a guide, and some people find them and understand them and talk to them in this lifetime, and some people don't. I that is one of my actual specialties in session is bringing guides through, giving them voice, talking giving messages from them to my clients, and helping to connect them through some type of name or numeration. And in connecting with that, you're bringing down the angelic realm. You're bringing in this frequency of love that is so much deeper and more profound than anything I've ever experienced just in human vessel, like, as human self. So when I'm meditating and I connect in meditation with, for instance, my main best friend, Guy, Gladriel, I have feelings of not only, like, safety and wellness and connectedness, but he'll also pass me information about, hey. You know that issue where you were noodling on the other day? Have you thought of this solution? And I get messages like that that help me to adjust my expectations for my daily life and where I should be and how I can best enrich my future.

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It's interesting because, like, you know, for spirituality, we kinda like this I this, like, kinda really deeply personal connection to something bigger. And it's often tied to religion, but it's not necessarily tied to organized religion. It's it's more of like a, like, answering the deeper life questions of why we're here and my purpose and why do we matter in a universe and, like, you know, and kindness, gratefulness, things like that. Right? And for a long time, you know, I've been one who said, hey. Listen. You know, you're dead. Lights out just like, you know, when you get put under for a surgery. Right? It's like black. You just don't wake up from it. Could be, could not. But if you think about this, what's the genetic benefit of conscious, of realizing bigger things? Like, the sense of you know? And because if if from an even a genetic or a or an evolutionary standpoint, probably, what's the benefit of because you'd be better off as a dog. Because a dog doesn't know it has cancer. It just knows it exists. Right? It doesn't know that it's it just knows it needs to eat and sleep and run around and do but we're not there's there's gotta be a reason for us to have this. Otherwise, what's the, you know, what's the evolutionary benefit of it, of having this this idea of spiritualist and other things? And and it lends itself that there's there is a reason because because you're supposed to have discovered it and supposed to happen the way it's done. Anyway, that may might be too deep for this, but but but do you know what I mean by that? Like, it's like there there if if you believe in evolution, there'd be an evolutionary benefit from the these feelings you have, these awakenings you have, and and also the the the distraughtment on the other the disillusionment on the other side of of being down and out. And I can kind of, like you know? So, I'll let you kind of dive into that a little bit. But I think there's a reason that that's my realization of coming to us. There's gotta be something greater and bigger that you're tied to. Otherwise, it doesn't even make sense why you would need to feel this way ever from an evolutionary standpoint.

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Right. And for me personally, finding sense of purpose in that larger connectedness, right, has had me researching a whole new way of being. I've found creativity. I've found energetics. Right? If you look into the body as energy, and, yes, I took physics at college, and I've been there with the, you know, energy meters and testing how much energy we're putting off. But if you look into energy is everything, right, and our connectedness with the whole species, not only does it motivate me to keep moving forward, which I was really struggling with in my days of lights out, we're done. I've been full point blank abject atheist. That's how I was raised, and so I've experienced that. I know what that feels like, and I know how that can really set an expectation that it doesn't matter necessarily how you're treating yourself or how you're treating others. It can set an expectation that you definitely should do good things because they are good, but at the same time, it doesn't matter in the big picture anyway. And when I was growing up, I was really struggling with a lot of suicidality. I have had a couple of inpatient trips, and I have had some very, very serious attempts on my life, especially prior to giving birth to my daughter. When I found that there was a bigger picture and a bigger place and a bigger meaning and my belief is a 100% in reincarnation. So I believe that I'm in a place where as long as I learn these lessons, I don't have to do it again, which is now one of my motivating factors to keep moving forward in big picture is to not have to live a life filled with suicidality again. Right? But for me, finding that bigger moment gave me something to live for and to work toward, and that was something that I really, really was struggling to see the point of. As a younger child, as a teenager, in my early twenties before my big awakening, I couldn't figure out what there was to live for or work toward. And if it was all lights out anyway, it seemed like maybe it wasn't worth the effort to keep going.

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Yeah. The, and I'm glad you shared that. You know, the I think a lot of people have that. To tie it a little on when you're building a business, at times, it feels like not to that extreme, but you're like, why am I doing anything? Like, what's the point? And and I had this conversation the other day, because I wanna come back to your moment. But I think one thing that entrepreneurs face specifically when they're still in a role at a company or they're trying to find that job that they can't find, and they also can't get their business going because they're running on 2 treadmills at the same time, and they're falling on both. And they feel this sense of absolute just nothingness. Like, I can't do this. I can't do that. And the reason is because they can't commit to either. Yeah. And and this is usually when you're when you're starting it or you're you're in the middle of it. You can feel like there is, like, there is no purpose to anything in life because you're like, I can't provide for my family. My kids are just myself. I can't do this. I don't wanna be there. I can't fit in there. That that is a terrible spot to be in. I've been in it. I think I think most entrepreneurs get to that point at some point when they're in their fees. And you might have an moment, and it might be like your your your daughter goes and says, you know, daddy, tell me something about business because I wanna be an entrepreneur like you. And you're like, oh, are you sure? But and you're like, you're having the worst day possible. Like, I'm about to just, like, move to an island in the Asia and just try to survive off of 3 k the rest of my life or something. And and, like, then your daughter's like, I wanna be just like you. And you're like, well, let's keep this positive now. So my point is Yeah. You had these moments of why it matters, and and that was enough, like, that little thing. Right? For you, if the moment was the backyard, maybe dive into that more. But I think there was another one. So so tell me about what your, kinda moment was.

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So the backyard was the huge one, and that was back in 2012. So we're talking 12 years ago now. And it was I actually was in a place, where I felt compelled once again to ask God if he, she, it, or they was were real. And I went outside, and I looked up at the sky, and I said, God, if you're real, show yourself to me. Like, I'm blurting blurring that. But, yeah, it was full of swears and full of intensity. And what I did not expect to happen was the sky opening up and being filled with the purest version of love I've ever felt and having a week of complete psychic, like, through the roof psychic ability. And that was a really, really big one, and that shifted a whole bunch of things for me. And learning and leaning into psychic work has been really beautiful, but it was the other moment that we were talking about was with the blocks. And it was day 3, and I had Nicole Sheri Haas, who is just an absolute incredible human being. I've been in her group for years. I I was sitting with her, and she was talking me through, moment by moment. And she's like, you're gonna come with me, and we're gonna do some deep breathing, and we're gonna breathe through the chakras, and here's the deal. You can't promote your spiritual healing and get to the multimillion dollar level because nobody's gonna pay you tens and twenties of 1,000 of dollars to find their purpose or to move through psychic awakening. Like, if they were moving if they knew that they needed to go through psychic awakening, they would already have been through it, and they don't need you. And I was like, well, you have a point. Because at that moment, I was still calling myself a psychic awakening guide. And she said, look. You have health, wealth, or relationship. Which is it gonna be? And I'm sitting here, and I'm mic'd up, and I'm in front of a camera, and I have all these eyes on me, not only, like, in the room with the camera equipment and the workers and and the other students, but also behind the lens. Right? I mean, I don't know how many people are gonna watch this season 14, 13 just got, like, a 1000000 views. Like, shit. I mean, shoot. Can I swear on this?

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Well, yeah, you can. Okay. Well, yeah, it is it is I mean, you gotta keep it to the use the the appropriate level for YouTube. I think me and I both dropped 2 words. We're good. If you would Okay. Well, fair. Yeah. It's,

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it's a lot of eyes behind that camera, and with absolutely no moment to think, the word wealth fell out of my mouth because that is one of the things that I am most passionate about exploring, that I have done the most work on and work with, that I have been in that manifestation space for such a long time. Yeah. And it didn't even occur to me as I said that, but upstairs in my room, I had my $100 bill tie. I had been passing out the vials of my more money oil. Like, I literally have money written all over me, and so it was very, like, and then I promptly sat down after my 15 minutes and stared out into space while my brain clicked, and I just went, for, like, the next hour and a half.

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So You have to pick a direction. So, but you like, in like, health, wealth, or whatever. You know? Picking wealth, if that's what the part it's most lacking or you feel like that's gonna be able to keep you and your kids to have a different experience growing up or have a different you know, whatever it is or or put it to something of a greater piece, which ties to what you're doing. Yeah. And and I'm not one anybody else. Anybody who thinks the world does not need money to do great things is fooling themselves. Like, you have to make money and and more than you need to survive on to be able to do more things that you wanna go do in your life. If you only wanna make money for the point of hoarding it, yeah, then then you're probably gonna be miserable. But if you're gonna do it with the point of I am I have enough and and I'm good, I wanna be doing something else that's gonna help some other people so I can help them on their journey, I think then your your spiritual nature of focusing on the piece that's missing is it's it's correct. If you're doing well at the expense of your relationship with kids, I would say no. But if I don't know. Maybe my decision I I personally think that would be a foolish mistake.

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I'm doing well for the kids. Right? And and it it gets into a lot deeper stuff. So, my initial spiritual awakening in 2012 was, also an experience that really hit. It really hurt, and I was an inpatient within about 6 hours, screaming at the top of my lungs, very confused, very overwhelmed. Like, physical body did not cope well with that realization. And I What was the trigger that got you there? What was the

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what what was the trigger that put you into, that that state? The I saw the face of God. That is too beautiful for human. I mean, I saw that. Well, that that's I didn't mean that as much as much. What got you into the state right before where you were like, that's it. I'm I'm over. I'm done. I'm exiting.

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I was in a state of profound mania from my bipolar disorder, and I didn't know that. I wasn't understanding what was happening to me. I just had a feeling that I could ask any question in the whole wide world and have it be answered. And the only thing that I could think of that I wanted to know more than anything was whether or not god was real. But, yeah, body didn't cope well with that, and I we were I was within I was it was a short amount of time before I was in, inpatient. And my older son was 20 months old at the time, and he was taken into foster care because my ex husband was drunk and violent when, the police showed up because I had been screaming and asking to call the cops. So, it it went very, very downhill very quickly. My daughter, my older daughter, she was actually born into CPS custody the next day, and she was taken off my breast. I was nursing, and she was they physically unlatched her and removed her and put her in a car seat and took her away, 2 days later, 2 days after giving birth.

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So So you have that postpartum, all that? Oh my word. That's good for you for pulling through for that one. Not everyone's gonna say they they pull out the other side of that ordeal.

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That was tough. I worked I worked my butt off, and I worked really hard even with my ex husband not like, he was kinda working against me. And I I got custody back, and we ended up leaving, three and a half years later on a restraining order. So I ultimately got a restraining order against him. It was granted. I had a copious amount of video proof. We were homeless for about 6 months, but 4 of them only technically homeless. We lived at the Women's and Children's Alliance here in Boise, which is a beautiful shelter, beautiful organization, so so safe to absolutely fall apart. And then they helped me find housing, and I worked really hard, on a grant that paid for the housing. And I spent all of my money on childcare, getting the kids to and from school. I got I had a paycheck. And because the, housing was paid for, I put myself on an 8 month payment plan to purchase the course that taught me advertising, and was working the 2 businesses. I was working doing the marketing agency, and I was working learning a lot more behind the scenes. And full time moms. Don't forget about that. And full time full time single moms. I didn't share custody. I didn't have child support. I didn't have anything. I had babysitters and day care, and, it was full time, full time, full time mom. And I didn't, like it's not like I was the best at it ever. I also developed a pretty, like, solid drinking problem that took me some time to overcome. But by the time I met Justin, who is my husband now, love of my life, and the father of our little 4 year old, I was paying before I moved in with him, I was paying every cent of rent, utilities, my cell phone bill, my car insurance, all of it, the day care, everything. I was paying on my own between the business and the job, and I had really pulled myself up on my feet out of that experience. Now Justin was in foster care when he was a little guy also, so negative foster care experience as well. And when I say that I'm doing business for the kids, I'm really doing business for the kids and definitely for the 4 kids that we have, 100%, but also for the foster children of our future. Because the way that everything went down, I didn't end up catching any criminal charges for what I had been through. It was psychiatric. I mean, to some degree, it wasn't my fault. I have the ability now to enter the foster system as a foster mom, and that's what we're looking at in our 10 year goal is moving into a place where we have the extra room in a house that's a little bit larger so that we can bring in kiddos and give back to the system that really took care of my kids at a time when things were really bad behind the scenes. You know?

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So when I I I wanted you to get to that because I think when you know, when I, when I meet people who are trying to become entrepreneurs or whatever, they're, you know, trying to figure it out, and they give some excuses. And I just look at them, like, if that excuse is blocking you from moving forward, you might as well just stop now. Like, just just quit. Because then there's people I meet that are like you that have crazy stories. There's so much in the backdrop that, you know, when we were at blocks, you're that you shared. We're we're gonna get it now, but, like, someone can come to you with like, you've had an interesting colorful more colorful than your Harry than life, already. And and and you've overcome so much, and you're still fighting through things. And the spirituality you know, going back to the spiritual healing behind that is what's allowing you to have a business. It's allowing you to keep a family together and allowing you to meet your, you know, your current soulmate forever. Right? Like, you like, that stuff doesn't happen unless you have that. And I try to tie it back to when people are like, if you're really struggling with something that you think is major, then find another path that might have been on a different plane you didn't realize. Like, you know, you you financed an like, a course, right, where every adviser like, you can't use money for that. Like, you're like, I have to invest in myself, and you have to choose one thing. Like, it could have paid off, may not have paid off. The point is you've overcome so much. And I think when people are out there, they should be inspired that, like, whatever your problems are, you really gotta take a look at what other people have sort of gotten through and ask yourself, is it really that big of a problem or you just don't really want it? Like, do you not really want it? Because if you you're, you know, you're fighting things with, you know, mental health mental health, wellness,

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exterior forces, additional miles, like, every pressure possible, it sounded like, and you still am getting through it. So good for you as long long speech to say congratulations to where you are, and god knows where you're gonna go next. So Thank you. Yeah. And that's one of the things that I hear a lot, and there's actually even been a point in my life where I was like, stop calling me strong because I don't wanna be strong for another second. Right? But under the strong and the strength that everybody outside of you will say as you're going through these difficult challenging things is perseverance. And I don't think that there's anything in 13 years of entrepreneurship that I have ever seen make or break an entrepreneur like perseverance and their ability to persevere through the good, of course, because that also brings a level that we have to persevere through, but also the bad. Entrepreneurship is hard. It's hard. And then when you're called to it, and really called to it, right, like, Thomas, you understand, it's gonna take a lot out of you. It's gonna ask for a lot. It asks for blood sacrifice, practically. Right? But when you're called to it, called to it, called to it in a way that you can't ignore,

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you're going to push through. You're going to be able to push through. Well, you do know this, right, as an entrepreneur. So those out there considering it, if you have the calling, you also know not pursuing it is the is is even worse. It's like it's it's a you'll you'll lay in your your your deathbed going, you know, what could I have been? What could I have done? Why didn't I do that? Like, that sounds like you hear that, and you're like, oh god. No. I'm out. Can't be can't be that. And and really and I can't explain that except that you you that's the one thing as much as most entrepreneurs who have a calling have this ADD in the moment kind of behavior, that's the one thing in the future they know they can feel. Yeah. It's like, I can't explain that maybe any better than that. So it's like Yeah. Yeah. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna go Yeah. Retire and die 2 years later. I'm gonna die along the way. It's gonna be great.

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Yes. My husband and I are planning on jumping out of an airplane when we're, like, a 104 and just letting our parachutes fail. I like the idea of that because it's fast. Well, it gives us a and it gives us a long time to look forward to that. Right? So we can't die anywhere along the way because we gotta make it to the airplanes. He's, like, 98. He's, like, right before you're like, we're gonna do it. He's like, I pulled it. I'm sorry. Pull

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oh, she didn't. I chickened out. She's gone.

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I'm collecting that life insurance, though. I don't know. A 100 and 2, though, my heart might just give out on the way down, whether I pull it or not. I have no interest of jumping out of a perfectly good airplane like this. Apparently, I'm doing it with my daughter when she turns 18, my oldest daughter. The the yeah. She's there is a lot to say about the terms around her birth. I I like to say that the universe had to rip a hole to send her through because she is so big and intense, and she's such an energy. I have my baby daughter who did not go through trauma. Right? She's 4 now. She's gonna be an artist when she grows up. She likes to draw. She likes to paint. She likes to color on the walls. She's got a nice little life ahead of her. She's very she's got a nice little life, and she's very loved. And then my older daughter, Zelda, who was born into a a mom that was not in custody and a dad that liked to hit and all this incredible trauma, and then she's homeless by the time she's 3 and she never sees it again. That child is going to rule the world. She is going to having us bending down to kiss her feet. She is absolutely a power that cannot be stopped. Incredible. Incredible human being. So

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Is, does your daughter have a partial tie to Peter Pan as well?

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They read it in that's so cool. That because it was Zelda the game. You know, there's a Well, yeah. No. Zelda is Zelda is not a panic.

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K. Okay. K. That's Link, sir. That's Link is the main character in this one. But I get it. I'm just saying. Is there any any tie? Just throw it in. Like, a magical character. Tinkerbell, maybe. I don't know. We don't know.

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We don't know.

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To those confused, just Google that. I don't know. Just go Peter Pan Zelda. Anyway alright. Let's look to the future.

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More as Takah from Maui, honestly, for Moana.

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Yeah. Like I like that before. More more, more relevant. Alright. Yeah. We have a few moments left. I wanna hear something. Shameless plug time. Who should get a hold of you, and how should they do that?

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Anybody in spirituality who is interested in entrepreneurship. If you are a spiritual human being or a lightworker, you know who you are. You have been called. You are moving into bringing forward the new earth, and you absolutely cannot ignore it. It's a thrum that beats in your eardrums. Right? If you need to know how to do the systems, how to fix the energetics, how to create the momentum, the profit, the strategy so that you're selling not not like they say that we're supposed to sell, right, but like a spiritual entrepreneur sells. If you want that, come hit me up. Wearthegalaxy.com, Geneva at we are the galaxy.com, or find me absolutely anywhere, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Galactic Guide Geneva. Alright? Just at Galactic Guide Geneva. Or I have a Facebook group. I have all sorts of stuff I can connect you in with and resources that are readily available on my email list. You can sign up for that at we are the galaxy.com, and I would love to help you to bring your mission into the world. Right? I say that my life is lived in purpose, not necessarily on purpose, but I live in purpose. And if you are a spiritual entrepreneur who has been through an awakening and is being called to bring new earth here, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

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It's it's interesting. So the, you know, the the idea of never being promoted and the the community that launches, I think, at the end of this year called Cut the Tie. Right? If I fast I'm 48. So if I fast forward 10 years, I don't wanna be doing business consulting, growth strategy, things around market. Like, I wanna sell that business. I wanna actually, you know, get an exit and because I wanna go create more entrepreneurs in the world. And I know that's a spiritual awakening, but it is definitely tied to finding, like, sense of purpose, faith, things like that. You know, I'm not gonna go be selling Bibles on doorsteps anytime soon. Let's just be very clear on that. But I'm still still the question. There's a few things. But the point point is there's definitely a tide of spirituality that I believe that this actually ultimately brings happiness for a lot of people because over half the people in the workforce just don't like their jobs. They don't like working for people, and and it's not bad, by the way, to work for people. I think that that's an awesome thing. You have to do that. You're you're building a company as an entrepreneur. It's it's about how you feel you fit in, and there's a group that just doesn't working for somebody else. And but they don't know how to break out, and I think that is a that's there's a tragedy involved in that because because, like, they're not being what they could have been because they're stuck in a machine, so so to speak. So my purpose and my spiritual thing is to make that is be my do my part to help that out there. Yeah. And I I feel what you are. I'm on the early early journey stages of that. But, if I was gonna be doing marketing or building a group, you're the exact person I'm coming to because you get the bigger power, the storytelling that needs to happen with it, the the sense of, hey. I'm not really chasing revenue that we have to make it. It's more about this purpose. When someone's looking to build their business and they need help getting the word out or get their content, like, that's what that's that's who should come to you, who who needs that extra little understanding. Yeah. Absolutely. A shameless plug, but I think that's actually true.

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Well, and, also, there's a lot that we can pull from spiritual realm. Right? And that's something that not necessarily every entrepreneur can do even though most of them feel or know it even if it's just on the back of your spine. Right? And this is something that I've connected in with over the last 12 years that has very profoundly shaped my life is understanding how to bring messages through from spiritual realm and into energetic field and play and heal and do Reiki and perform miracles. Right? And and that looks different necessarily than what we've read again in the bible, but it is when we move through and we say, oh, it's right there. It's in your creativity. That's the blockage. Go paint something and come back and talk to me tomorrow, and I bet you're gonna be feeling better. Right? And we can put these little tools together that help us understand a whole better picture is painted.

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It's it's interesting. Right? If if you think about children who have pure creativity and they're only restricted to really nothing because they they can come up with anything, they still they just you know, they they're just doing what they do. We lose that as adults for sure, or I don't think we lose it. We submit submit it down to to the background. It's be it becomes something that it's still there. There there's some degrees of neurons, but the truth is if you can help somebody I like the idea of painting because the truth is if you help somebody be creative, the next day their brain's firing different to be creative. You're receptive of other things. And the more times you can do that, the more kind of little awakenings you can have and feeling senses of purpose, senses of creativity, senses of, of it, and I liked it. And and it's funny because that's it it's true. And I think a lot of people that are out there, that are trying to they're struggling with this also don't know it's okay to be like that, so they fight it. Yeah. And so so so that it's there's also this kind of sense of community of being able to feel this way without feeling like, oh, well, if I start doing this, what are people gonna think of me? That that's that's immediately an excuse that you gotta overcome, and that's a tie you gotta cut. As soon as you think, what are they gonna think of me? It means I want to do this, but I'm afraid of what my perception would be.

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Assuming it's a good thing, like, like, you're trying to do. That right there, I'd say identify as a cut. That's where spirituality can help you pull through because you just you're you're surrounded by the wrong people at that point. Let's say it that way. Yeah. That's actually a big part of why I went out and got the forehead piercing was to be the girl that has the forehead piercing. Right? It's not because I'm here to fit in. It's not because I'm here to blend in, and it's not because I'm here to stay in and with the status quo. It's very much first of all, obviously, 3rd eye awakening, 3rd eye opening, and, yes, it has worked for anybody that's considering 1, but also very much because you look at me, and you know within seconds of forming an impression that I am not the normal cup of tea. And because I'm not normal, it gives permission, first of all, for most people to walk away, and that's great because I probably didn't wanna know you anyway.

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Defines the no. Green. But it's not a no. I also like your cup of teas. It's probably got peyote in it. I'm just gonna say it that way.

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But, also, it gives for it it is interesting how many people suddenly wanna have the conversation that's so much deeper. And I'll have people that I've never met before, and the first thing they say when they walk up to me is, what's your take on simulation theory? And I'm like, okay. Well, let's see. We're I'm a nerd out.

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Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I love it. Alright. Listen. Just conscious of time. Geneva, thank you so much for coming on today.

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You are so welcome.

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You you rock. This has been fun. It's, it was fun to get to know you at the block season 18. We'll see how that airs. That was an it was an interesting week. I I personally went into it not knowing it was a competition. I can admit that now. I was I went into a different intent. It was to meet a 100 people, which I met everybody, and I went in with the idea that I was gonna find one thing every day to incorporate my business. And that was that was the approach I took. So that was but then I found some competition. I'm like, oh, shit. Okay. I was like, alright. Well, we're doing that, I guess. Anyway, it'll be a fun season. It'll be fun.

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Thank you, by the way. I'm gonna put you in the periwinkle room. I think that's periwinkle. Give me just a second real real quick, because you mentioned it when you came in. And I just wanna give it to you because, yes, I do do tarot, and I pulled this card.

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Oh, you do do tarot? Okay. I was kidding. Okay.

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Yeah. So this is 8 of crystals in this deck, also known as 8 of pentacles, and this card that I happen to pull for our session today means hard work pays off.

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It better. Okay? I'm gonna listen here tarot card god or Easter bunny god or whoever's managing that tarot religion spirit niner 4. It better pay off financially. Hear me. Pinnacles usually does mean financially. Yes. That's very it's a very simple world. I threw it out there because there's no one talking back. I'm just talking to the emptiness. I'm a go outside and see if something's looking at me. Alright. Thank you. I like it. Listen. Hard work

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does pay off. Hard work pays off. But

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hard work with purposeful intent to help others Mhmm. I'm sure it does. And it and it may not be financial. I'll leave you at that. If what I'm doing with trying to do this entrepreneurship thing, and I know and and I went in with the idea that I need to make the investment to build a community to get behind a brand that I'll have to create, and it's gonna be just an insurmountable amount of work, but I'm gonna do it anyway because I truly believe we need more entrepreneurs in the world, and they need to get better at it quicker. And that that's my goal. So I think the hard work pays off, maybe not for me. Maybe it's something I don't even realize in my own lifetime, and I'm okay with that. That that was my mindset going in. But, otherwise, yeah, bring the cash. I'm fine with that too. Totally good. GoFundMe.

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Thank you, Geneva. I appreciate your help, Marie. You're welcome. Have a good one. I'm gonna put you in. I'll be right back with you. Thank you, Geneva, for for taking her time today to meet with us. She's a she's a fun person. She got some great stories too. So if listen. This is my call for you if you're out there and you wanna meet somebody who gets the side of it. You're trying to discover it. You want somebody who kinda aligns to your beliefs on spirituality and doing more for the world or for yourself or for the people in the communities around you. She's worth a conversation because she knows what she's doing on the marketing side and also knows this other half that, she has relevance in. Until we get it out there again, get out there. Go unleash that entrepreneur. Go help someone else be better in entrepreneurship, but I really appreciate everyone who's listened and watched. Have a great day.

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