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Welcome to the Never Been Promoted podcast. Thank you for for tuning in here. You know, we're we're on a mission to help a 1000000 entrepreneurs get, you know, get started, get unstuck, and just get better at entrepreneurship in life. And we're doing this through the journeys of other entrepreneurs of all types from, those who are just starting to those that are maybe, you know, in their 15th exit. And if this was your if this is your first time here, I I really do hope it's the first of many. And if you've been here before, I do appreciate you coming back, and listening to the show. It's it's it's been possible to grow as fast as we have. As of here, you know, March 19, 2024, we recorded this. We're about to hit a 1000000 subscribers this month on YouTube. So all the support and how fast it's grown here in the last, you know, 2 months or less is is is amazing. So thank you so much. My small call to action, I've been adding it. Just check out YouTube. You know, we're at .com. We've never been promoted. Take a look at what we have. A lot of these interviews and things are on that. Today, though, we're joined by Sam Pherwani. Sam, how are you? Sam, you you're allowed to talk on the podcast. It's totally fine to say hello. Good morning. It's it's that thing you do in a pumpkin.
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Hi. Hi, Thomas. No. No. Absolutely honored to be here. Thank you so much for taking the time to put in putting this together for us. Of course. You know, your,
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your introduction is like you know, we're talking about it. You're a electrical entrepreneur that this is this passion for global electric electrical safety, and we're gonna we're gonna talk about your journey a little bit with that. But will you take a few minutes just to kind of give us your backstory and and kind of set up who you are and and how we got here? Yes.
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I am currently in a relatively nice area of Boca Raton, Florida, but it was a long journey to get here. Started on from Middle East, in Central Asia through Canada. That's who gave me my identity, my nationality, and, education to to where I am today. So I am an electrician at heart, turned instrumentation controls engineer, then electrical engineer, then instructor, now auditor, electrical entrepreneur, all kind of rolled into 1. It's been 33 years. I can't say it's been fun. It's, it's been rough, but it's it's an amazing experience and kinda what I gathered going, like, getting this far from all those years.
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Yeah. Well, dive in that, Elyse. It's been really hard. What do you what do you mean? Explain kind of because I think a lot of people listening the path to wherever you get is hard. And so maybe talk about yours a little bit as well.
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Yeah. To to kinda go with what I'm I mean by that word is lots of people I went to school with that took instrumentation controls or electrical engineering, they defected into, going to work in computer software because there was a boom at that time. This is, you know, the nineties and and and the exponential growth of the Silicon Valley startup. So lots of people went there, and they found their gold in in this newer California gold rush. And lots of other people got business degrees and directly bypassed the blue collar layer to kind of tell people like me what to do. Whereas I kind of I had a bit of a school dropout, went to work as a technician, and I actually appreciated those blue collar days. Came back, finished a degree, and, really still stayed in that blue collar mentality, which is probably why I still identify well with electricians and instrument techs today. But that's hard work in the sense it is physically hard. You're up with machines, with instruments. You have a radio. It's either minus 30 with a minus 40 wind chill, or you're in Bakersfield, California in an art rated suit, and you can't work in the afternoon. It's too hot, so you work night shifts. And there's flies in your trailer when there's not muck. So, yeah, it's hard.
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So so the light electricians, you know, I think of it as more residential. It didn't look that bad. Like, they're running around. They got music in their ear. But when you get to when you're talking about commercial level and other bigger scale things, it's hardass work. Industrial level. Yes. Yeah. Hardass work. And so I think a lot of people don't appreciate that because they see it's how much to put a, you know, a light in, and you're like anyway. So let's talk about your journey. So so I I I like actually, I like the idea that you went into where you just you know, like, I don't think everyone should, by the way, go to college. I think it's important if people can and they can afford it and they can get through it. I think it's a good life experience. It's the time of life. You can only do it. But getting into trade produces a really good living. And it's hard, but every job has its own level of crap to deal with. Right? I what I do like about trades like electricians or plumbers or what have you or carpenter even is you have a skill for life, and then you from an entrepreneurial perspective, once you kind of learn yourself how to run a business and you find your niche, you can really you can be where no one else can be who's in a job and has to show up every day. You can kinda make your own schedules and do things, but you gotta get out of the industrial world to do it. As you've kind of started your own, so today, what is it you're working on?
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So today, I have my own consulting electrical engineering, instrumentation, and electrical safety company. But being that my marketing skills are weak or I'm relatively unknown, I am attached to my former employer as their official embedded contractor. They're a company called Shermco Industries out of Irving, Texas. I had joined their Canadian operation with, out of Ontario, Canada, my home state. That operation closed after COVID, so I moved to the States. But they kind of bring me in my work, and I go representing them. When I'm with the customer, they don't know that, I'm a contractor that's not professional. However, many of them, I've gotten close to the customer, so they kinda know that this guy is kinda heading toward the sunset, but he's still putting on company hat, but he's he's he's transitioning it. But it doesn't mean that I call him aside and say, hey. We'll do it for half the price zone. We don't do that.
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Right. But you you said you're, like, you're 56. You you know, I think you got lots of years ahead of you, from a from a just an age. It's 56 is the new 30. Just I'm throwing it out there just because I'm approaching that as well. The you know, are you so one of the challenges you're having in your own journey is the identity away from your current employer that provides money, provides, you know, status amongst when you were there. People know you're you're the you're the guy. Are you are you finding that transitions really hard? Does it get does it get you a little stuck to figure out how do I get my own identity out of this?
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Probably a lot. My own fault because there's many people like me who when they work for a larger company and they get a chance to hobnob with customers along the the way, they do a little bit of self promotion, which which there's nothing wrong. In fact, it it it is essential. If you don't, then you'll relatively become an unknown, and you you just stay I'm an amalgamated extremity of the company, and I'm merely here to fulfill the the the requirements to keep you alive, keep keep you safe, and keep you within the the codes and the standards of the industry. So when you don't, do that marketing along the way, you finally get to a point where you you realize that you're not moving as fast as you did. However, you're still in that point where if you didn't have your uniform on with full regalia and your your your your shoulder rank and you're just a civilian on the street, like, nobody's gonna give you a second look. So that's the kind of, challenge one would face as an entrepreneur if you didn't plan for it for it along the way while you were an employee of or an officer of a company?
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Yeah. You're describing what I love. I call it the angel investor that has no equity in your company. So while you work for a company, you're building your side hustle and exit using the salary that you're making there, the experience and other things without maybe you can't steal IP and things, but you're creating your own personal brand. Maybe talk about your own journey with that where you're finding, you know, you're stuck or where you're struggling with it. And start with that, and then we can we can do some reflection on what she would have done. So my journey into entrepreneurship
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happened quite by accident. So I used to work for this company in Austin, Texas called Motorola. You must have heard of them. Their, yeah, their chip manufacturing division, which was kinda like a stepchild anyway, and that's when, we were being hit by the semiconductor downturn. And, you know, all of a sudden, like, a $9,000,000,000 business becomes a $5,000,000 business, and there's managers walking every day with cardboard boxes to people's, cubicles saying it's time to pack. It's time to go. Nothing personal. And all of us are being sent to AutoCAD class. Why? Because we're gonna fire the whole CAD department tomorrow. Every engineer's gotta do their own drawings. Me being the only Canadian and and the youngest guy, I get everybody's drawings to do. So it was kinda funny. So I, having worked in in the Middle East, reached out to all of those folks that I had worked at at ConocoPhillips, went to other oil and gas companies and say, dude, you want engineering drawing and stuff? I can do anything. I can do, I can make CAD for you. I can make electrical designs. I can make instrument stuff. They're going, we don't need designs. We've got lots of Indian and Chinese people doing that. What we need are products. Can you help us with valves and instruments and electricals? And that's how, like, Samsung, Control started my own company as a supply company, not so much as a services company. And because Samsung, semiconductor was building the largest fab in North America at that time. I went to work as a contractor. The word sonsu is a Korean word for, like, one man show or do it yourself. Like, it it it roughly has some you know, that kind of connotation. I took this name as as as you know? And the company started by accident.
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That's amazing. So, it it it is and it isn't. Right? So if you don't make the calls, if you just let someone come to you, you don't take the initiative, you kind of give up. Those calls lead to a discovery. And if you didn't hear the person, if you were just only, I can do this, I can do this, I can do it. And people keep telling you no. You just don't listen to what they actually say I need and you don't make the pivot, you don't get the opportunity to start your company. So your own I think there's some by accident, but I think there's also this I'm hearing it that you listened and you evolved. You pivoted, and you fed you filled the need, and then you figured out a way to kinda do your own thing with it in addition to others. And and I think that skill is what some people then blame others. Like, oh, it never works for me. I can't do it. Not you know, whatever. There's there's a bunch of excuses. And you and I'm sure you have plenty of them. Don't get me wrong. But, it sounds like the the core of it is you listened when you needed to and and took the actions to take the risk to make yourself more successful. I mean, do you feel you were conscious of that, or do you disagree, or or how do you feel about that?
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So risks are inherent for any entrepreneur, and I find that education actually takes you away from risk. The more alphabets you pile ahead of your name, the less risk you wanna take because you wanna be compensated for your education. That's why I know some employers when they see a resume from somebody from Harvard or with with the Wharton MBA, they'll throw it in the oh, this guy is gonna come in entitled asking for 200,000 a year because of that Ivy League education they have. Unless you know, it's to me, it's so ironic that an MBA is jobless. You're a master of business, dude, and you can't find a job, seriously, but that's how our society is built. It just that degree just tells you that this dude is trainable. They can be thrown into a new environment, and they can grasp their strings and start to produce and, perchance, be creative at the same time. For me, the need came from seeing those cardboard boxes and the people being walked out. We once, got an outside contractor to do a lunch and learn for us. And as the guy's training us, we're seeing people in the background being walked away and, you know, with the guy was distracted. And he's my friend to this day. He's saying, dude, I will not forget that day you brought me into teaching your company. I saw this war scene. That was my biggest push to become an entrepreneur. If you don't do this, you're on the street with no plans. So you better start thinking about what you're good at. Reach out to all the people, you know, or the things you can do and start I I wanted to sell them my CAD skills and my engineering skills on how to populate a P and ID or or make an electrical drawing, but they wanted something else from me.
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What do you if you had to go back and tell your, you know, 20 some year old self something, what would you tell it?
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I don't know at what stage. At different stages, I would have told them told this older self to walk away from this path. Go do there. But, seriously, I would have said have more fun. Don't burn your life on work. Just party more. Just go date that girl. Ask her out. Like, work stuff, it continues. You know? You can live in in mediocrity. You'll still be intelligent, but have a good time towards the end. I like that. So enjoy the enjoy the journey, not whatever thing you're trying to collect along the way. Will always be there. Customers will always hit you on the head and take you out of your your nice smile, the the thought that you had within.
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That's good advice. I mean, I I think there's a balance. Right? You can't be all party, no work, but take take the moments to enjoy life when it presents itself, I think, is what I'm hearing.
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You know, the people who are highest up in the food chain, they actually make partying their work. The biggest business deals for aircraft sales or a new land project are done at the golf course. So they have perfect the art of playing, and then, oh, by the way, let's get a, you know, business done and all the expenses for the 18 hole and for the all of that stuff paid in.
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So I think you make a good point there. So, you know, golf being the metaphor for it, but, like, you know, a lot of deals happen when the when people have fun together and they they get because they get drawn in. The mechanics of business, by the way, you know, you could be the greatest, most fun person in golf, but if you don't have what someone needs, they're not gonna buy it even if they're your friend. Like, you have to still have value. The the connection's what matters. And I think that's one of the lessons to take away is you you look back going, hey. I wish I would have more fun. And if you did, your your trajectory might have changed because you might have been included in something, and you would have learned something from somebody that you would have had access to. And and, and if you have the right mindset to kind of always be micro mentoring, you know, of learning from 1 per you know, one here and there, it works. Talk to me about what you're working on today. So I I and it led in with this global, safety. You know, you have a non for profit that you're trying to not charity, but a non for profit, you know, which is which is just so anybody doesn't know, it is just a tax classification for the purposes of of how you can leverage your your revenue that you get and and etcetera. And you don't want it to be a charity, but you wanna focus on global electrical safety at an affordable rate. So do you wanna take a few minutes to talk about the actual organization? And let's talk about kinda where your passion how it came to that. Yes. Thanks, Thomas, for, for talking about that. It's a little pet project of mine that once I
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I turned 55, I had it was a was on my bucket list. It was a, like, a check mark. We formed, 2 of us. There's my colleague, Victor Evans, in New Brunswick, Canada. He's a much younger version of me. But we came up with this acronym called ESIPAC, which is Electrical Safety Industry Practices Actions Committee. Now there's a bunch of electrical standards, but they're just in books. And they, when you read those books, you're gonna fall asleep within the first three quarters of the page. They're written dry. They're written in full legalese or government language. You can never learn from that book unless you are a evolved critic or author or a serious student of that standard. That's when you can read those books. Those are not written for laypeople. But how do you get a a an operator or an electrician work reface lethal, electrical circuits and equipment without having to hurt themselves, kill themselves whilst being able to understand that standard. Now that costs a lot of money in the first world. In Europe and North America, electrical safety programs can run easily to the tune of tens of 1,000 of dollars to implement, and they usually take a few weeks to a month to to a few months to make ready before the company can take it on, make it its own, and then and then run with it. So companies so consulting firms charge a lot of money to make, make end users a bible of their own electrical safety plan. And you can't steal somebody else's plan. It's gotta be your own. So my, goal along with Victor's was we're leaving out the poor, economically depressed zones in Africa and South America and some parts of Asia. They can't afford such quality, work for for for top dollar. So they start, cutting corners either without knowing or because they simply can't afford it. So there was there's this little opportunity gap to come up with ways to round up world experts to offer them electrical safety engineering and safety consultation at very low prices, you know, similar to what you pay as a co pay to a doctor. And, they because I believe that safety and and good quality electrical engineering, like health care, should be universal, should be available to everyone. So hence was what was born, the Electrical Safety Industry Practices Actions Committee. Out of the 12 board members I saw today, we are 8 of us with 1, webmaster who's a kid I found in Africa at a at a refugee camp on another, job I was doing last year.
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That's, what's the passion behind it? So so did something trigger you to say, hey. Listen. I I you know, it's a lot of people just can focus on US, and we have it and whatever else. But why global? Like, what was the emotional kind of piece that I need to do this? What's the driver?
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As I've, moved from teaching at Berkeley Lab in California to SHRMCO, and I was there for 9 odd years as an instructor. One of my mentors was Jim White. He's, up there as a star watching over us. He had a bunch of these gruesome videos of fatalities, and a lot of them in China, India, South America as people are clueless. They don't know what they're doing. So, you know, some people laugh at those videos saying, you know, this is like a Darwinian elimination. I took that to heart saying why not come up with a, a committee that can proactively take those cryptic standards that are just sitting in books and make an inexpensive offering to, the have nots of the world.
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Is there is it is it feasible to do that, like, digitally, or is it required to really, like you have to be kind of on-site to learn this stuff?
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No. You can do this digitally very much, and that's the idea is, on our website, which is ESIPAC.online, What we're we haven't found any customers yet. We're close to talking to a a large African, company that represents, government to have a q and a session that is always available 24 hours a day that companies or countries can subscribe to with a low annual fee. And their specific questions are they post on the on the chat, and one of our experts will answer anytime of the day. Our experts are in 3 time zones, North America, Europe, and Australia. So not 3 time well, actually, many zones, but kind of 3 world area approximate time block. So people will answer those questions. But if they wanted on-site individual consultation, all we're saying is, mister expert, should you wanna travel to, say, you know, Ghana to do a job, and every I mean, any charge any fee that to keep our lights on to keep the web aside up and, like, a little bit of stipend, just a few $100 a month for just to respect the the expert's time.
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Is your idea behind this I mean, typically, people will do things I know people. Companies typically do things it might be hard to say, but, like, philanthropy for for profit. Right? So a company would sign up for this if they think, oh, that market would be good that people get to know us. So because we're going to put a plan in in 10 years. It is is, 1st, if that is the case, for your what you're trying to do, is that okay as long as people get the right electrical and another and a company pays for it? Or do you think there's another way to go do because I don't see I I have a hard time seeing individuals just doing this unless they're wealthy, but I can certainly see a company sending some of their people there to go train electricians, getting ready for some investment they're about to go make in there. And they're they know they're gonna wanna hire local.
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So so this problem doesn't acutely exist in multinational companies. For instance, I am, I have been retained by Shermco via Procter and Gamble to teach their global electrical safety program. So I teach their plants in Europe, in Asia, Asia Pacific, in North America, the same stuff, you know, but they those plants, they have over 240 plants in the world. Even if you have a plant in Nigeria, they have the advantage of the corporate being like a mother to them to guide them through design, build, implementation, operation, maintenance, and safety. I'm talking about those little startup companies who do not have the umbrella of a larger Western at a 1,000 amps coming to their, at at a 1,000 amps coming to their, electrical equipment to run their pumps and motors. If they don't know what they're doing, somebody's gonna die. That is something we're trying to prevent. That's all.
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Are you, are you saying that I just can't, like, you know, put a little duct tape on that? I'm just kidding. By the way, just from a side note, what you're describing sounds incredibly powerful. Just a fun little story. I remember doing some home repair in a house one time, and I was using a sawzaw, and it hit a nail and bounced and hit the 3 40 coming into the house. And and all I saw was a halo of sparks, I mean, instantly. And and I was like, you just kind of shut her up. You know, like, how am I not dead? I have no idea what just happened. And I looked down at my sawzall, and it's just like the blade has got an arc in it. And and and apparently, all I hit was the ground wire. I just nipped it. It was enough. And so at that moment, I'm like, and I call an electrician, and he blows me away. He works the whole thing hot. What that means is he turn off, didn't call any power company. He just kind of unplugged stuff, redid it, rewired it, went out there. I'm like and I don't think that's what you're supposed to do. I think you're supposed to turn off the power first. Right? He came out and just worked it hot. 2 hours later, I was like, I'm glad you did that. Anyway, so to understand that that power, what it did at the next level, it sounds like it's not even close to a lightning bolt, but it sounds like one. So, so maybe on that analogy, right, you got a you got a lot of energy here. See what I did there? What do you what's your biggest challenge right now for getting this this not for profit off the ground?
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Nobody knows us. People know the directors individually, but the directors are just trying to make a living, in the paid roles that they are. And I am one of them too. And we don't know, we don't have the money to spend on marketing. So it's it's a chicken and egg.
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Right? Yeah. So you gotta get you can't you know, so so, you know, this is an often problem where if you're under it's a big problem, under capitalization of any project. Right? If if you can't afford it, you gotta find the right person who understands it. And and so what what are you doing about it? Because you can't just say, I don't wanna do it. Right? Or you can. But if you really wanna go forward, what are you doing right now? I'm I know you're on a podcast. I get that. But, you know, it's a day in, day out activity. Right? It's a hustle. You're starting a business. What are you doing with it? What's the how are you grinding through this?
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We made a website. I Victor and I were able to get a director, so we're not in a in a bad place to launch it. Now we're doing hashtags on LinkedIn mostly for people around the world to to see the value add of what the nonprofit is. But we truth be told, even the directors do not share the same, fire and brimstone that I do on where I want to launch this. They're like, if it if it flies, it flies. If it ain't, it's it's still a spruce goose. We still made something. It's a legacy. It's an it's an ideology. So I do not know. Everybody will still continue to do their for profit roles. But for me, if I can do one of my, Quincy Jones, Lionel Richie, we are the world overnight recording, that that that would be ESIPAC. So and my only sincere hope is long after I'm gone and I'm just, you know, stardust somewhere. Hopefully, I I wind out nicely, not not like an idiot getting getting electrocuted. That would, you know, that would not be a nice message. And this this, acronym and this organization would carry on.
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Yeah. I mean, it would be irony, but it might trigger the events you want. See, if there's safety, this guy had actually taken his own medicine, so to speak, and learned, he would be a pile of of rubble right now. You wanna pop it out, Dundee. Is that how he went? Did he die?
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No. I don't know. There was there was somebody else. There was a guy who,
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was a he was a photographer, and he got Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. That was the bear guy, I think. Nice. And there was also, not crocodile Dundee. There was a guy who lived with bears who got eaten by bears. There was, I know you're talking about. He got killed by a stingray.
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He was swimming with But, you know, some people say he was an idiot. Some people say he he died doing what he loved best. You know, look at George Mallory, you know, trying to climb the Everest. You know? His story will always be told. Right? Why why do you climb Everest? Because it's there.
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That's right. I and I think if I was I'm I'm trying a solution for you because it's a very complex thing. One of the best ways to get attention for something is just to go do it. So if you're gonna go to, let's say, you know, Central America, South America or somewhere else because there's, like, another organization to pair up with, like, a, you know, a church or some kind of, like, real, you know, outward facing church that gives money to other organizations to help. And you say, hey, can you get me down there so I can go do some electrical safety work for the people locally? And you just go make an effort to go do it yourself, video it, talk about it, be on camera, take images, write articles, blogs. That right there is usually enough to get people interested. It's like, I'm looking for more people like me. And by you do doing it yourself, you're you're showing by leadership. And and there's lots of outward facing kind of, religious organizations that I at least that I know that that that would if you said I have this passion. I have this non for profit. All I wanna do as an individual right now is go help. I'm gonna be the 1st to go help somebody who needs this. How do I do that? There are lots of places that will help you go somewhere to put the electrical in for a house they're building or a church they're building and to train people locally of how to maintain it and do it correctly and what the right rules are, that that exists. And if I'm thinking for you, that's where I would start. It's just taking the leadership yourself to do it, have fun along the way, and just document it for your purposes of marketing. You won't need anything else. And that organization itself will probably be so happy with you. They'll probably find some other volunteers that are electricians that are part of that religious organization and say, hey. I'm gonna go with you next time. Now you've got your group of people that are just being doing exactly what you talked about, and it's individuals helping it. And and then eventually, that's when you can go to corporate, or you can just find other religious type organizations who will help fund your your because you've done it. And I I've seen that single handedly done with with other stuff. Idea,
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wrong location.
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It won't be the church. It will be the substation that feeds the church, the town, police station, all of that. But but but the point being on, the the church may fund your your trip or give you the opportunity to say, hey. This is where you're needed. And then your role is to go down there and solve what it is so you can bring the right people. My point is that's a way to get to where you need to go.
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We did that last year with a with a Baptist organization out of Dallas. And, we did a job in Ghana, but I, got pulled into this refugee camp outside of Accra that housed refugees from from Liberia, Sierra Leone, South Sudan. And I tried to get the church organization to work on this, slum on the refugee camp, and they didn't. And as of 2 weeks ago, the whole thing got bulldozed. It got, razed to the ground. So I was kind of disillusioned with the whole religious pursuit for religion itself and not you can't help people with religion because there's too many poor people, so they have to focus on only what they can do. And so that disappointment comes very, very quickly. And when you go to a poor place, right from customs and immigration to the taxi to everywhere, everybody has their hand out. I took, like, 250, a100, like, I'm sorry. 200 to $251 bills, and we're just my wife and my sister and I, we're just, like, handing them out there.
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Well, yes. I I would I think there's probably a better way to do that. But my my point is you just can't It's like anything else. You can't you know, just because the first one didn't do it. I think that's the path, though, to find the people with the money to fund what you're doing. And and you'll find the right one. You just can't give up after the 1st or 10th because because the truth is the work you're trying to go do is serving exactly. It's just made at the scale you want. But once you've found the right organization that said, hey. Listen. We have this thing, and you get down there. It is what it is, and you think they're aligned to you and how however you want from a business standpoint, from a health standpoint, or spiritually, then you got the one to start to kinda put a footing in to say, hey. I wanna work more with you guys. How can we expand this? Because what you do is so needed as part of the overall, help of other people. And then existing areas that already you know, like, that's I think that's the path to be able to do it without having to spend your own money. You and you're just giving your time. Yeah. And if you're trying to create a legacy, what you're gonna give is gonna be remembered way more than what you have. So,
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No. You're absolutely right. But more and more, we're coming to the realization that that organization has to be a government or a a semigovernment entity. The city that powers the the, you know, the transformers, that control you know, that feed all the loads or or the airline company or the utility. It's gotta be somebody at that level. That's the kind of change we need to percolate
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down the system. Well, exactly. And and what I'm saying is for you, right, is you find the organization that's already established help, and they have they're gonna be the ones that'll know how to get ahold of those people through their local contacts so it's done correctly. And anywhere obviously, there's always games that are played, whatever, from money and everything else. But anywhere where you can help train a a local pool of people to learn a new skill, which creates money and revenue, which everyone knows then is spent in the local markets. Right? Usually, people are like, hell, yeah. We would love you to train a 100, you know, electricians this week. Like, we'll bring people from other local villages so they can learn this skill. To me, I I mean, like, if you're willing to do it, there's always someone willing to take that that, time of yours to do it. So I love what you're doing. So I just conscious of kind of our time together and everything else, I want people to know how to get ahold of you. How would you like them, and who do you want to get ahold of you?
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I'm available on LinkedIn. I I that's the only social media platform I spend time on because I meet like minded people, you know, just like you alluded to. If you're playing golf and you're all CEOs of, you know, one owns a logistics company, one owns a oil and gas company, one owns an airline, one owns the city, you can all kind of close deals right over 18 holes. Right? So that's kind of what I find in LinkedIn is you can attract and stick with the group of people. That's probably where I like people to find me. Also, my own website, sonsucontrols.com or ESIPAConline. Any of those will come to me. And yeah.
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Awesome. Sam, thank you, by the way, so much for joining me today. I I I like your story a lot because you've, you know, you've gone. You've seen people go different directions in your life and career from, like, some people took this. Some people took this path to school. You took the trade, but you had an eye out for something more. And as you've gotten, you know, through your since you've seasoned yourself, you're you're ready to be put on the grill now to be cooked. Right? So now you're taken to a whole new step to give back and do more with it. And I can see the struggle. Right? And I've heard it of, you know, I understand what you're going through because now you're like you're you're starting a business at 56. You're starting something that's not even trying to be something that's self serving. It's bigger, which I I'm not even there in my life yet to do. I certainly want to yet, and I just don't have what I know what it is quite yet. I think it's related to this podcast and helping entrepreneurs, but it is overwhelming feeling, I'm sure, you're feeling. I I I would I would assume that's a fair statement. And for you to come out and share it and be a little bit vulnerable with us on it, I I truly appreciate it. Sam, you gotta how to get ahold of you on LinkedIn, and Sperwani, which is s a m is an easy one, but it's p h e r w a n I. Check him out. He looks like Leonardo DiCaprio. So he is the electrician of Leonardo DiCaprio. Good smile. He's got the same kind of goatee. I'm telling you, like, you're like a stunt double, with that. So just ride that, the Leonardo DiCaprio of electricians,
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in the world. In in the movie, Revenant, I might add, after he got bit by the bear.
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Oh, I haven't seen that one yet. That okay. So so in that moment, that's him. That was he actually this is a lie. He stood in as a stunt double and got really bit, and that's why he's no. I'm kidding. Sam, thank you. Anybody who's made it this far in the in the in the show, thank you for listening. If this was your first time, I hope you come back. And if you have a good story, I hope you reach out, and maybe we can come and tell yours. But until we meet again, I want you to get out there, unleash your entrepreneur. And if you are an entrepreneur, I want you to go help somebody else. Help them get started. Help them get them stuck. Help them get better at entrepreneurship because that's our mission here. I appreciate you listening to the Never Been Promoted podcast. Until next time, go unleash your entrepreneur. Thanks.